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: MS-Nepal
Newsletter August 2001 |
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"Posting a Peace Pole and
Crying for Peace alone does not
Help Attain Genuine Peace"
-Dr. Gopal
Krishna Siwakoti
As a frontline human rights activist of Nepal, Dr.
Gopal Krishna Siwakoti has always remained in the midst of a
struggle to protect human rights, for which he was imprisoned for
a couple of times by the former repressive government of Nepal.
Dr. Siwakoti is Executive Director of INHURED International, an
international institute for human rights, environment and
development, which has special consultative status with the ECOSOC
of the United Nations. He spoke to Devendra Dhungana from the MS/N
Info Unit on topical issues. Excerpts:
In the context of the escalation of Maoist
insurgency and several socio-political anomalies prevailing in the
country, how do you think the violation of human rights can be
reduced?
The first and foremost
burgeoning question in Nepal today is the problem of impunity.
Talking of impunity, we need to go back at the blatant violation
of human rights in the repressive Panchayat era. Those involved in
these human rights violation were allowed to get off scot-free
even during the post Panchayat era or after the restoration of
democracy in 1990. The Mallik Commission prepared an 1100-page
report, clearly identifying the persons involved in extra judicial
killings, torture, disappearance, and plundering of the nation.
However, the accused and those who plundered the nation for 30
long years were allowed to have the upper hand because they went
unpunished. The same persons, in one way or the other, are in
power and are continuing the legacy of the past repressive regime.
So the crux of the problem lies in granting self-amnesty and not
in bringing those culprits to book. In order to create a kind of
parameter to assess the violation of human rights situation on the
part of the government, we can say that the policemen are not well
trained, and are somehow continuing what they did in the past when
it comes to maintaining law and order situation in the country. So
this is one part of the coin that the entire state mechanism has a
deep feeling that the institutionalisation of human rights is not
the integral part of the entire process of consolidating
democracy. This is one of the basis reasons why the violation of
human rights still continues.
What is then the other side of the coin?
The other side is the cause of the People’s war.
But the main reason behind the outbreak of the people’s war is
that people had a lot of aspirations that they hoped would be
fulfilled after the restoration of democracy in 1990. People
really wanted some change—not only political change and change in
the civilian and political rights, but also changes for the good,
for the effective realisation of the economic, social and cultural
rights. In the last ten years, people’s hopes have been badly
shattered and the situation of the poor and the marginalised
section of society have further deteriorated. The outbreak the
violent people’s war can be attributed to the heap of anomalies
that have accrued in the socio-economic and political fronts of
the country. All this created a solid ground for the eruption of a
kind of violence in Nepal.
So what solution do you see to end the violence in
the country?
First of all as the
representative of a human rights organisation, we do not advocate
violence. On the part of the state there are so many things that
could be attained and achieved in the best interest of the people.
The basic thing is proper governance or good governance, which is
the fundamental principle of the observance and respect of human
rights in this country. So the political parties have a strong
role to play in improving the situation. What happened in the past
is major political parties were busy in horse trading and very
much involved in petty politics and they had a lot intra party
conflicts that created a solid ground for the escalation of
violence. So the basic thing comes down to good governance again.
Negotiation, mediation, reconciliation and peace are what we need
at this hour of crisis to put the country back on the track. But
the peace should be based on justice. We cannot discuss or talk
about absolute peace. We need to talk about just peace. And for
that to happen, it is important to consider the distribution of
resources, due respect for the rights of the marginalised section
of society and also economically challenged population. In doing
so, the geographical realities should also be taken into
consideration because development is not proportional in Nepal.
When the largest chunk of society is deprived of
the state resources, where should the work begin?
We should first realise that
Nepal is not a poor country. It is one of the richest countries in
the world in terms of human and natural resources. The geography
itself is such a balanced one in this country that we have diverse
flora and fauna, climates, natural resources and minerals. In
terms of tourism, Nepal is one of the attraction centres for the
world but the only thing is we have poor management, or
mismanagement and rampant corruption in the country. At this
juncture, the civil society has a great role to play in
streamlining the political process and consolidating democracy. So
we really need to start from the top because the policy makers and
the people who are sitting on the driver’s seat have been
recklessly driving this country to the extent that it might derail
and a great collision or crash cannot be ruled out until strong
measures are taken to improve the situation.
We should not be granting excuse for ourselves by
saying oh! It’s a landlocked country and we do not have resources.
That is not true. This is a landlocked country but this is also a
land-linked country and the benefits of being a land-linked
country are so many but we only have to know how to tap them. In
terms of harnessing natural resources, hydropower and tourism,
there are so many opportunities for the country that can lead to
prosperity. This boils down to the fact that the starting point
for the nation’s progress and democracy would be good management
and good governance.
Besides the problem of Maoist insurgency, what
other major problems do you see in Nepal?
Well, the fundamental thing is that since we
practised the standard western model multi party system in this
country, the problem of conflict has started from the unfair
voting system. We are not practising the universal suffrage to the
extent where the genuine people’s will is reflected. So the entire
election system is a failure in this country.
But it is the same kind of system that is in
practice almost everywhere where there is democracy?
The concern is that unfortunately we have been
imitating the worst part of the standard multi party system that
is heavily influenced by money, marshal and mafia right from the
beginning. Election is the primary structure of any multi party
system. But when the people’s will is not genuinely expressed or
respected, then that becomes the epicentre or the seed of the
problem. If we create an atmosphere where people could express
their will freely without intimidation then automatically there
emerges due respect for elected representatives, which also
applies at the self-governance level. The most important thing is
guaranteeing an atmosphere where people can exercise not only
their right to vote but also their right to be elected.
Just for instance the excessive repression
exercised by the state in the early 1990s against the party which
was then functioning within the constitutional framework, and with
the misuse of state power during the elections angered many people
of the mid-western Nepal to the extent that they started
supporting the so called people’s war. Today there is the
so-called people’s war movement but people of different groups and
ethnic communities also have a lot of frustrations, lot of
grievances like the question of self-determination. Even after
more than a decade into democracy, we have not been able to define
who the indigenous people are and who the marginalised section of
the society are. We have not been able to define who the
nationalities are. The state is not in a position to define what
the question of right to self-determination means. These are some
of the things the state has failed to address properly.
Look at the refugees! We do
not have the national legislation to address the problems of
refugees, be they Bhutanese or Tibetan refugees or from other
parts of the world. We are not the state party to the United
Nations refugee convention. That is creating a very odd situation
thereby providing enough ground for the escalation of violence in
the country.
Talking about refugees, what difference do you see
in the nature of the Bhutanese and the Tibetan refugees?
Well, the Tibetan refugees are known as the first
generation refugees in Nepal and they are also the pioneer of the
highest amount of foreign currency earning entrepreneurship; i.e.
the carpet industry. Tibetan refugees possess the most adaptive
quality among refugees in the world. For this reason they get
easily assimilated not only in Nepal but also in other parts of
the world. Therefore, reason, Tibetan refugees problem has not
come to the nation’s priority agenda. It is also because Tibetan
refugees have also chosen to be assimilated in the local
community. If you tell them to stay in a temporary camp somewhere,
even if administered well by the UNHCR, they are not willing to do
that mainly because they came with fairly good amount of wealth
when whey fled the country and also because they have been
generating a lot of international solidarity. So their situation
is very much different from the condition of refugees coming from
Bhutan or other parts of the world.
Bhutanese refugees are
victims of what we term as the Bhutanese way of apartheid or
Bhutanese way of ethnic cleansing. They are now living in the
UNHCR-administered camps and their plight has been highlighted so
much in the international arena. So they are not in a situation to
be assimilated in the local community. The problem of Bhutanese
refugees lies with the host country because on the part of the
state, we have not been able to pursue the fast tract diplomacy at
the international level because of the direct influence of our big
southern neighbour India. The reason for not resolving the problem
at this stage is that Nepalese are known as the floating tribe and
if India recognises Bhutanese refugees as refugees, the problem
arises in other parts of India as well where people of Nepalese
origin are living for so many years. So the problem has been in
the limbo.
As an eminent human rights activist, what role do
you think the civil society can play to help resolve the conflicts
that are in so many forms?
The civil society cannot run
the government nor should they create a parallel government even
if they are in a position to do the job better than the government
at some points. They have their own scope, mandate and
limitations. So the civil society could definitely play a vital
role in terms of creating a congenial atmosphere to start some
kind of positive dialogue for reconciliation. The civil society in
Nepal, fortunately, is not totally ruptured and polluted in that
sense. We can create an atmosphere for dialogue but we really will
have to undergo a comprehensive research on the problem in
question. The dialogue cannot take place in abstract. Posting a
peace pole and “crying” for peace cannot and will not help achieve
genuine peace. What we have seen with the civil society is that it
is praying for peace and not acting for peace. We need to advocate
for peace and for that we also have to undergo some kind of risk
and that is what we should be ready for. The intellectuals and
academicians are just “crying” for peace and posting the peace
pole every time describing Nepal as a peace zone. Today at the age
of globalization, the whole dynamics of peace, human rights and
governance has been changed. So we have to work with both the
warring parties (government and the insurgents) and demarcate our
position and our responsibilities. What happens is that we have a
kind of preconceived idea that we are not for conflict and we tend
to say that we should be condemning the violence all the time.
This is not right. Condemnation is not the solution. It is vital
that the civil society penetrates into the warring parties and
creates a sort of friendship with the warring parties because they
have a very strong instrument with them- the international human
rights instruments and international humanitarian laws. These laws
can bring both the warring sides together and make them realize
that at least they should be sparing the civilians. The human
rights organisations are effortful of brokering talks between the
government and the Maoists.
Coming down to the Kamaiya issue, the liberation
movement moved speedily culminating into the freedom of the
Kamaiya. However, they are yet to receive land and be
rehabilitated. What long- term solution do you see to the kamaiya
problem?
In terms of Kamaiya it’s been exactly like— the
plane has taken off but no one knows where it is going to land
because the airstrip on the other side has not been built. This is
exactly what has happened in the case of the Kamaiya freedom. The
problem of Kamaiya should not be dealt with in isolation. A
lasting solution calls for agrarian reform in this country. The
land use policy, the natural resource use policy should be
completely comprehended, and changed to ensure equitable
distribution. Otherwise, Kamaiya problem is a small part of the
problem. Of course, it seems to be a big problem because we are
talking about bonded labour, about the enslaved people like in the
first century but unless a drastic change is effected in the land
use policy in the entire kingdom, the Kamaiya system is not going
to end because we are talking of a few thousand Kamaiya in that
pocket of the country alone. But Kamaiya or a similar system still
persists in other parts of the country as well. So it’s a question
of total agrarian land reform policy that the state has to dare to
start, otherwise, the conflict between the landlords and the
tillers will persist.
It’s already planting season and many Kamaiya are
getting more despondent than ever with no land provided by the
government. They feel being thrown into the fire from the frying
pan. Does this mean that the civil society did not do enough for
their rehabilitation?
The Kamaiya freedom was like joining the wedding
and funeral procession at the same time. Given the resources and
capacities of the NGOs, they did what they could do. But they are
not in a situation to provide a permanent alternative to the
displaced people. They cannot do that. It’s something like
providing support to the refugees. We did provide a fair amount of
support to the refugees coming from outside, particularly to
Bhutanese refugees. We could do it for a couple of years but we
couldn’t sustain that. The same thing happened with the Kamaiya
also because it was our campaign as well. It was a campaign for
freedom so we celebrated the movement but at the same time, we
didn’t extend support even for their temporary relief. The
government should seek a permanent and durable solution to this
problem. It is the responsibility of the government to
rehabilitate the displaced Kamaiya.
Just for example, let me take the example of the
case where we rescued 118 Nepali trafficked girls from Bombay and
brought them home by chartering the Airbus from Bombay to
Kathmandu and settled them in some centres in Kathmandu. But that
was a temporary sort of relief. To tell very frankly, we shouldn’t
do the job because we should not be running a parallel government.
That will be totally an overlapping and that will not strengthen
the government. We should help strengthen the government. The
government is the law enforcement agency and it is the state
mechanism, which should be strong enough to solve the problems.
The government has formulated Public Security
Regulations for what it calls is to maintain security and
restoring law and order in the country. What do you say about it?
Well, I myself have become the victim of the
Public Security Act long time back and was imprisoned for seven
times under the older version of the regulations. I know what are
the implications and consequences of offering the sole authority
and discretionary powers to the Chief District Officer. It makes
no sense because if we like to term the present political scenario
and present emergence of violent people’s war as a law and order
problem, then we already have sufficient number of laws to govern
the whole scenario. But if you do not like to call it the law and
order situation and would like to call it “insurgency” then the
entire situation or protocol changes. So we need to talk about the
humanitarian law that binds both warring parties.
So what means do you suggest to end violence in
the country?
I cannot give you the exact
prescription for resolving the crisis of this particular type of
violence but honesty, good governance, and punishment to violators
of the human rights are a must for bringing about a positive
change. There should be no impunity, no criminalisation of
politics. What people have witnessed in the last ten years is that
parliament has become the platform for horse-trading. Just see the
wealth of the ministers, parliamentarians, and look at their
attitudes. Everything has been changed for the worse and people
have vividly witnessed this scenario. So people want some change.
If you went to a district like Rolpa in 1994, it was impossible to
get a tablet of medicine like cetamol in the whole
district. So what is there for the people to expect when the state
cannot fulfil even their very basic rights? Violence has emerged
in the country because the basic needs of the people have not been
addressed for a very long time.
(Dr. Siwakoti is Executive
Director of INHURED International, an international institute for
human rights, environment and development, which has special
consultative status with the ECOSOC of the UN.)
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